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Advisor Fees: Percentage of P&L

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Duration 4:44
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Within the IBKR platform, financial advisors can charge their clients using automatic billing methods or manual electronic invoices. This video will review the Percentage of P&L method with is one of the automatic billing methods available to financial advisors.

As a reminder, the automated billing structures are calculated in arrears meaning that the fee is charged to the client account at the end of the payment period. Fees Templates can be configured by opening the left side menu, expanding Administration & Tools, expanding Fees & Invoicing, and selecting Fee Templates. For more information on configuring fee templates, please see our Introduction to Advisor Client Billing video.

For this video, the advisor will edit the fee structure for an existing client by selecting the Fees from the left side menu, then selecting the client from the Account Selector, and clicking the pencil Edit icon in the upper right corner.

Performance Fee: Percentage of P&L Method

The Percentage of P&L method is a performance-based fee where the advisor is charging a percentage of the profits for the period. The performance fee is configured in the base currency of the advisor account. Two periods may be specified for this calculation – Quarterly or Yearly. Th maximum percentage fee that can be charged is 30%.

Can thresholds be configured for performance fees?

Advisors can also specify a threshold that the account’s performance must exceed for the fee to be assessed. Select Yes to configure a threshold and the advisor can enter a static, fixed number or select an index or ETF benchmark as the threshold. If the P&L surpasses the threshold, the fee will be assessed on the surplus return above the threshold. 

For example, if the Advisor charges an annual performance fee of 20% and sets an 8% threshold, the advisor would not be paid a fee if the client account’s annual money weighted return is less than or equal to 8%.

If the account’s return for the year was 30%, the advisor will receive a 20% performance fee on the excess return. So, 30% minus the 8% benchmark equals 22% in excess return and the advisor would capture their 20% fee on that excess return.

Note that deposits and withdrawals are not included in the calculation of P&L, instead the “P&L” represents the change-in-equity due to business activity like trading, commissions, dividends, interest, variation margin, and so on.

Can advisors offset prior periods of losses for performance fees?

Additionally, advisors can apply High Water Marking to the billing period to offset periods of losses in a volatile market. Select Yes to configure the High Water Mark and specify the number of look-back periods (in quarters or years, based on the period selection in the Percent of P&L fee schedule).

High Water Marking keeps track of cumulative losses per billing period within the specified look-back period. A loss in any period will be added to the look-back period’s cumulative losses. A gain in any period will decrease the cumulative loss recorded to date. Advisors cannot charge a profit-based fee as long as a cumulative loss exists. By default, the look-back period is zero.

The advisor can also choose to pro-rate the prior losses for withdrawals. If an advisor chooses to prorate, withdrawals in the current period reduce any cumulative losses that are carried over from previous periods. The losses are reduced in proportion to the percentage of equity that was withdrawn.

Additionally, the advisor can initialize High Water Marking with previous periods’ losses by manually entering the amount of the losses. These losses may have been incurred for the client in another account, or with another advisor, or at another custodian.

Like other automated fee methods on IBKR’s platform, the performance fee will not be effective until the client approves the fee schedule. Any changes made to the fee during a period will only be applied on a forward-looking basis and will not be applied retroactively.

Please see our website for more information on the formulas used in the fee calculations as well as helpful examples.

Resources

Advisor Fees Overview

Automatic Billing Methods & Examples

 

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3 thoughts on “Advisor Fees: Percentage of P&L”

  • Very Concerned Advisor

    Dear Interactive Brokers, you have made a significant error in the above. You state: “For example, if the Advisor charges an annual performance fee of 20% and sets an 8% threshold, the advisor would not be paid a fee if the client account’s annual money weighted return is less than or equal to 8%.”

    However, in auditing your fees now that I am an advisor, I can see that you just multiply the hurdle by the capital balance and DO NOT use a money-weighted return method to determine the performance fee threshold.

    Your documented method above is the correct method but you are not applying this in practice and as a result, you have taken the wrong fees, most likely for all of your advisors.

  • A note to other advisors

    A note to other advisors on the platform or considering the platform. You should be aware that IB does not adhere to their documentation when it comes to the hurdle. Specifically, they state above that they use an “annual money weighted return”. However, when clients come in intra-year, they then switch to applying the hurdle over the shorter period instead of annualising the hurdle. For example, if your hurdle is 4% and the client comes in July 1st, then an annual money weighted hurdle would be 2% (approx). They instead treat the 6 months as the full period. That is, the full 4% over 6 months. This is a departure from their documentation.

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