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Those Pesky Consumers and Their Miserable Sentiment

Those Pesky Consumers and Their Miserable Sentiment

Posted March 28, 2025 at 12:45 pm

Steve Sosnick
Interactive Brokers

Today’s equity market rug-pull was brought to you by the friendly folks at the University of Michigan.  While I’ve never understood what compound in the water in Ann Arbor makes parents suddenly bleed maize and blue when their offspring enroll at that institution[i], their economists should not be blamed for being the bi-weekly messengers of bad news about consumer sentiment.  I’ll return to the same term that I last used to describe the UMich sentiment data: Frankly, it stinks.

To be fair, today’s data doesn’t stink quite as badly as say, two weeks ago, or one month ago, or even as early as February 7th, when we first noted a strange uptick in 1-year inflation expectations.  The magnitudes of the misses simply weren’t that substantial – and one measure actually improved:

University of Michigan, March 28 2025

Coming on the back of a higher-than-expected monthly reading of the Core PCE Deflator (aka the Federal Reserve’s preferred inflation measure) of 0.4% vs. the prior 0.3% (which was also the consensus expectation), higher inflation expectations were not at all helpful to and already skittish market.  My interpretation, and seemingly that of many traders, is that the Fed has and inflation concern on its hands even before the tariffs get implemented. 

The early trading activity was a bit of a tug of war between the “buy the dip” crowd and those who were concerned about the higher PCE reading.  Pre-market futures and the first half-hour of cash trading were only modestly lower, with some attempts to claw back to unchanged levels.  Those efforts were abandoned after the UMich report, though, and stocks sank precipitously.  The modest declines became a -1.5% rout in the S&P 500 (SPX) and -2% in the Nasdaq 100 (NDX) by midday.

Yet bond yields have been lower across the curve all morning, implying either that the PCE report was not all that meaningful to bond traders or that there is a “flight to safety” going on.  My vote is of course for the latter.  The 10-Year Treasury yield was about 3bp lower before the PCE data, about 6bp lower just before the UMich data, and about 9bp at midday.  It is hard to reconcile the prospect of higher inflation with lower long-term yields unless there is either a flight to safety or concerns about future economic woes.  Neither is a particularly welcome topic.

Regarding the sentiment numbers, I had been of the belief that the Fed was less concerned with “soft data”, like consumer surveys, than with “hard data” from official government sources.  I happened to attend a discussion with Richard Clarida, a former Fed Vice Chair, and he assured the audience that it was not the case.  He asserted that at least during his time at the Fed (2018-2022), they considered all data somewhat equally and did indeed pay close attention to survey data. 

Dr. Clarida’s talk led me to the question that I am wrestling most with right now: if the two parts of the Fed’s dual mandate move in opposition (higher prices AND higher unemployment), which part does the Fed tackle first?  During Paul Volcker’s time at the Fed, which coincided with a major bout of stagflation (much more inflation and unemployment than we face now), the focus was on fixing inflation as a prerequisite to reducing unemployment.  Chair Powell seems to be respectful of Volcker’s handling of that inflationary shock, so my gut says that he would also advocate for focusing on higher prices, despite his comment about the “transitory” effects of tariffs on inflation.

Regarding that “transitory” comment, it is important to remember the distinction between price levels and inflation.  CPI – the Consumer Price Index – is like the S&P 500.  It measures the level of prices in the economy (unlike SPX, it rarely goes down).  Inflation measures the change in CPI.  Thus, even if inflation slows, it doesn’t mean that prices come down — disinflation refers to a slowing rate of price increases, not lower prices.  So, while tariff-induced inflation might indeed be “transitory”, its effect on price levels will not be.

Let’s think of it this way: suppose the price of a stock rose 2% every year, from say, $96 to $98 to $100.  It gets more costly each year.  Then let’s say it jumps 10% to $110 one year, but then resumes its usual $2 path.  The inflation in the stock price might have been transitory, but it never got cheaper to buy.  That’s the same as the “transitory” effect from tariffs.  Yes, the bump might be transitory, but its effect on price levels is not.

As I finish typing this, traders don’t seem to care particularly much about these types of subtleties.  They worried about the prospect of auto tariffs on Wednesday, were only mildly perturbed yesterday after the details were released, and resumed their angst apace today.  Maybe this is setting us up for a big bout of “sell the rumor, buy the news” next week, but this month’s -6% and -7.4% drops in SPX and NDX, respectively, tell us that sentiment is likely to remain challenged for some time.

And I’d also imagine that many of those angsty traders will be rooting for Auburn to beat Michigan in tonight’s NCAA matchup…


[i] I’m looking at you, Cousin Karen!

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10 thoughts on “Those Pesky Consumers and Their Miserable Sentiment”

  • AJ

    Worst president in history continues to deliver

  • Anonymous

    Michigan seens to be the most accurate and unbiased report that’s released. No fluffing the numbers to get the numbers to what everyone wants to hear. Wait til we get the unemployment reports. All the layoffs in gov and tech alone should show an increase. If they don’t, question who is reporting the numbers. Making America great again type of numbers in the Ann arbor report lol. Americans asked for it, voted for it and now they can live with it. If Biden did one of the 80 things trump did in the 1st 60 days, every rep would be calling for impeachment but since it’s their trust fund sugar daddy, it’s negotiating. Get out of here with all this noise. This whole admin is a joke of spoiled babies and sex offenders. King baby syndrome is real. We seeing it now. Got almost 4 full years of this. Strap in

  • Anonymous

    All the “data” and conjecture in this article but no mention of the effect of the political reality of a liar and convicted fellon as President, and Musk making cuts, willy nilly, decimating institutional memory, and people’s lives, both inside and outside government. Even the mainstreet Joe blow like me understands that the USA is a consumer driven economy. What Musk, Trump, and institutional investors don’t seem to get is that taking even more away from the 80% of the consumer they will have less income to buy your goods and services. We aren’t dumb. Sentiment is down because of Trump and teams incompetence, and the instability they foster.

  • Parent of a U of M grad.

    Hey Steve: Not very gracious or at all that bright of you to insult the parents of the largest contingent of living alumni of any university in the U.S. and perhaps in the entire world. You likely are ignorant of the fact that over the past 10 years between 52% & 59% of the undergraduate UofM enrollment is from “out of state” and thus the parents do not drink Ann Arbor water. Over 5% of the under graduate student body are “out of country” The grad student enrollment in 2024 is 55% out of state. I can’t speak for the validity of the UMich sentiment data, it is out of my lane. Perhaps you should not be so flippant and should stick with what you know. GO BLUE

  • Parent of a U of M grad.

    That above was from me.

  • Anonymous

    Those three brave realists better hope those new gov people don’t have the ability to track down everyone who does not agree with them! Apparently, it may come to that!

  • Lee

    I believe the writer of this piece is like the majority of the financial industry in that they are trying to “wonk” out the numbers which is leading them into the cliche’ that you can see the forest for the trees. The daily posting of economic numbers are the trees. The forest on the other hand is on fire and a Santa Ana wind is on its way. Yet most of the establishment financial community is still busy counting trees.

  • Tim

    We need to reimagine “What Can Be, Unburdened By What Has Been” in order to understand. Right? Right? Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha. When you see it in a Venn diagram it suddenly starts to make sense.

  • Anonymous

    Well written article, thank you.

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