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My belief is that the earnings reports from the big banks reaffirmed the positive sentiment heading into this season but did not necessarily boost them further.&nbsp; Considering that investors are clearly in a sanguine mood despite Friday\u2019s air pocket, I don\u2019t think we want to see expectations boosted too much further.&nbsp; High expectations can be met; overenthusiastic expectations face a very high hurdle.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There were some blemishes that bear watching.&nbsp; Zions Bancorp (ZION) and Western Alliance (WAL) both got hit on concerns about credit quality.&nbsp; As of now, those seem isolated to those two relatively sizeable regional banks.&nbsp; Although they are similar in size and scope to Silicon Valley Bank, which caused a bit of a crisis about two-and-a-half years ago when it failed, there is nothing (at least so far) to indicate that these are anything systemic.&nbsp; Quite frankly, there always seem to be banks with credit issues somewhere \u2013 it\u2019s kind of the nature of the business.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yet it became clear that someone might be paying attention to these situations more broadly.&nbsp; Around midday we saw the usual, set-your-watch-by-it rally fade on a lack of follow-through.&nbsp; That occurred yesterday without much damage.&nbsp; Today\u2019s drop accelerated more quickly, with some attributing a rally in short-term Treasuries stemming from concerns related to the -8% drops in ZION and WAL.&nbsp; Again, I know of nothing concrete that would encourage those concerns, though the reaction of the broader market may be telling us that an appreciation for risk, as opposed to an outsized desire for reward, might be creeping back into investor psyches.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I\u2019ve spent a good portion of this morning fielding questions about the banking sector.  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