{"id":218077,"date":"2025-01-30T13:00:45","date_gmt":"2025-01-30T18:00:45","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ibkrcampus.com\/campus\/?p=218077"},"modified":"2025-02-27T12:59:17","modified_gmt":"2025-02-27T17:59:17","slug":"more-about-moats-or-lack-thereof","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.interactivebrokers.com\/campus\/traders-insight\/more-about-moats-or-lack-thereof\/","title":{"rendered":"More About Moats, Or Lack Thereof"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Yesterday, my colleague Andrew Wilkinson and I taped an IBKR Podcast entitled \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.interactivebrokers.com\/campus\/podcasts\/ibkr-podcasts\/wheres-the-moat\/\">Where\u2019s the Moat<\/a>?\u201d&nbsp; I highly recommend a listen.&nbsp; (The title arose from a Teams message that Andrew sent me on Monday morning as the market was reeling from the DeepSeek news.)&nbsp; For me, that discussion further kindled the question about whether Monday\u2019s action revealed unexpected vulnerabilities in companies that seemed somewhat immune from competition.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.interactivebrokers.com\/campus\/traders-insight\/securities\/stocks\/some-deep-ish-thoughts-about-deepseek\/\">In Monday\u2019s piece<\/a>, we wondered whether the activity was a blip, a turning point, or an inflection point, writing:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Going forward, we will need to decide if today\u2019s events are a blip, an inflection point, or a turning point for the AI trade.&nbsp; My gut says \u201cinflection point,\u201d though it is clearly too early to draw real conclusions in the midst of a major sector\u2019s repricing.&nbsp; At its best, DeepSeek will represent a boon for artificial intelligence, making it cheaper for all and thus improving the odds and the timeframe that its potential productivity boosts will be reflected in a wide variety of companies\u2019 bottom lines.&nbsp; Maybe not the one\u2019s that we\u2019d all expected, however.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Unseating the dominance of the largest technology stocks, the \u201cMagnificent 7\u201d and the like will not be easy.&nbsp; They have been able to build significant competitive moats around their businesses, which is one of the key features that have enabled them to generate the outsized profits that are driving their premium valuations.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But it&#8217;s not impossible. Look at IBM as a precedent. Yes, it&#8217;s up enormously today, but it spent years as an also-ran. Yet about 50 years ago, it was THE seemingly unassailable way to play the nascent computer age. Expectations for the role of computers in society proved true, maybe not even optimistic enough, but IBM was blindsided by a Harvard dropout named Bill Gates who, with others like Steve Jobs, democratized computing power away from giant mainframes.&nbsp; Now of course, the companies they founded, Microsoft (MSFT) and Apple (AAPL) are among the Mag 7 leaders.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The PC revolution was powered by Intel (INTC) chips, which had their own unassailable role as a semiconductor leader for decades. 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(No symbols for them because none are public companies any longer.) &nbsp;Neither Google (GOOG, GOOGL) nor Facebook (META) existed at that point.&nbsp; The latter two are seemingly invulnerable now, but they were once upstart disruptors themselves.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Moving forward to today, let&#8217;s stipulate that the AI revolution will be as consequential as hoped. Only time will tell, but the markets got previous big themes correct.\u00a0 However, DeepSeek reminded us that even disruptors are at risk of being disrupted. And it should serve as a reminder that if companies are earning outsized profits, it is inevitable that competitors will arise in hopes of reaping some of those gains.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So, could it be that the resource-heavy approach to AI be as obsolescent as the mainframe was vis-a-vis the PC? DeepSeek says yes. 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