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There are leveraged investors blowing up because they borrowed immense amounts of low yielding yen to buy everything else &#8211; Japanese stocks, US tech, crypto, etc.\u00a0Some were starting to lighten up ahead of the Bank of Japan meeting last week, and it really accelerated after they raised rates.\u00a0So now the yen is screaming higher, creating a nasty feedback loop.\u00a0It&#8217;s hard to know when those end.\u00a0Buffett revealing that he sold half his AAPL and carries more cash than ever ($277 bn !) is the last news the market needed this weekend.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>There\u2019s much to unpack from that hasty text.\u00a0While it is gratifying to see markets recovering from their early lows, stocks remain lower across the board.\u00a0But when we\u2019re looking at pre-market 5% declines in key index futures and VIX trading around 50, that is a clear sign that something is severely amiss.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I honestly don\u2019t know what our clients may have experienced this morning (and if I did, I couldn\u2019t write about it), but I feel comfortable in saying that the turmoil that we saw overnight and on the opening this morning had the feel of forced selling.\u00a0I can\u2019t say with any certainty whether that came from risk managers instructing traders or forced closeouts that resulted from offsides margin exposures (something I alluded to\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.cnbc.com\/video\/2024\/08\/02\/we-are-not-yet-in-a-bear-market-interactive-brokers-steve-sosnick.html\">on TV on Friday<\/a>), but there was a certain \u201cget me out\u201d quality to the pre-market and opening trades that since have subsided.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>A key reason for the forced selling, though hardly the only potential one, is the continual unwinding of the \u201ccarry trade\u201d involving the Japanese yen.\u00a0For years it has been the preferred currency for financing leveraged investments because it has continually yielded something close to 0%, making it a very inexpensive place to borrow.\u00a0\u00a0As most of the world\u2019s central banks raised rates over the past few years, the Bank of Japan resolutely kept rates low.\u00a0The resulting interest rate differential pressured the yen, and it steadily declined against most other world currencies.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That decline further emboldened the carry traders. It is one thing to pay back a low-yielding loan, an even better thing to pay it back with a depreciating currency.\u00a0Even better, that depreciating yen helped the exporters that dominate key Japanese equity indices.\u00a0So, it became quite popular to borrow yen and buy Japanese stocks or indices, and also quite popular to borrow to buy high momentum stocks such as the Magnificent 7 in the US.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>But momentum has a nasty way of reversing course at inopportune times.\u00a0We started to see the yen appreciate ahead of Wednesday\u2019s BOJ meeting, which concerned us.\u00a0<a href=\"\/campus\/traders-insight\/securities\/stocks\/this-is-the-week-that-will-be-starting-with-msft\/\">One week ago we wrote<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Any or all of these events [FOMC meeting; MSFT, META, AAPL, AMZN earnings; July Payrolls] has the potential to move markets. We all know about the power of the FOMC and Jobs Report, but I am actually quite concerned about the outcome of the BOJ meeting tonight. There is currently a 70% chance that they will raise rates by 10 basis points at this meeting. That hardly seems meaningful, but it is clearly an \u201cin-play\u201d meeting (as opposed to the 4% chance for a Fed rate cut).\u00a0Considering the dislocations that coincided with, if not caused by, the recent rapid appreciation of the yen and its effect upon carry trades, a significant currency move in either direction could have profound effects on risk assets.<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ummm, yeah.\u00a0The effect on Japanese stocks has been profound, and scarily so on their bank stocks.\u00a0That had clearly spilled out into global markets overnight.\u00a0And again, the idea that Warren Buffett has sold half of his main Mag 7 position and might now hold more T-bills than the Federal Reserve is not exactly the sort of buy signal that people hoped for.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>That said, of course we\u2019re now getting some bargain hunters sniffing around.\u00a0Some started early.\u00a0\u00a0Another friend in the text chain, an astute day trader, said he was selling VIX puts pre-market above with that index above 50.\u00a0(Fortunately he\u2019s an IBKR customer because not every firm allows customers to trade pre-market VIX options.)\u00a0That works for highly disciplined, experienced traders, but not for everyone.\u00a0For longer-term investors, perhaps following the GOAT\u2019s move to a defensive posture might be more appropriate.\u00a0Simone Biles might be the gymnastics GOAT, but Buffett\u2019s GOAT status has been earned over decades.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>As those of us in the US awoke to carnage in a wide range of overseas markets and even cryptocurrencies, the following question came to me in my morning Wordle text group: Steve, how bad will it be today? &#8230; While it is gratifying to see markets recovering from their early lows, stocks remain lower across the board.\u00a0But when we\u2019re looking at pre-market 5% declines in key index futures and VIX trading around 50, that is a clear sign that something is severely amiss.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":210092,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":true,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_acf_changed":true,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,14,16727,14700,6,19,8,9,22,26,3],"tags":[11460,1633,1685,3598,17572,4109,44,292],"contributors-categories":[13576],"class_list":{"0":"post-210067","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","5":"has-post-thumbnail","7":"category-asia","8":"category-etfs","9":"category-etps","10":"category-ibkr-market-insights","11":"category-north-america","12":"category-options","13":"category-region","14":"category-securities","15":"category-stocks","16":"category-text-articles","17":"category-traders-insight","18":"tag-apac","19":"tag-cryptocurrency","20":"tag-macro","21":"tag-market-outlook","22":"tag-overseas-markets","23":"tag-stock-market","24":"tag-stocks","25":"tag-yen","26":"contributors-categories-interactive-brokers"},"pp_statuses_selecting_workflow":false,"pp_workflow_action":"current","pp_status_selection":"publish","acf":[],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO Premium plugin v26.9 (Yoast SEO v27.3) - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-premium-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Carried Away, Then Carried Out | Traders&#039; Insight<\/title>\n<meta name=\"description\" content=\"As those of us in the US awoke to carnage in a wide range of overseas markets and even cryptocurrencies, the following question came to me in my morning...\" \/>\n<meta name=\"robots\" content=\"index, follow, max-snippet:-1, max-image-preview:large, max-video-preview:-1\" \/>\n<link rel=\"canonical\" href=\"https:\/\/www.interactivebrokers.com\/campus\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/210067\/\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:locale\" content=\"en_US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:type\" content=\"article\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:title\" content=\"Carried Away, Then Carried Out | IBKR Campus US\" \/>\n<meta property=\"og:description\" content=\"As those of us in the US awoke to carnage in a wide range of overseas markets and even cryptocurrencies, the following question came to me in my morning Wordle text group: Steve, how bad will it be today? ... 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