{"id":199840,"date":"2023-12-06T12:15:00","date_gmt":"2023-12-06T17:15:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ibkrcampus.com\/?p=199840"},"modified":"2023-12-07T13:26:59","modified_gmt":"2023-12-07T18:26:59","slug":"hey-mr-market-tell-me-what-you-want-what-you-really-really-want","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.interactivebrokers.com\/campus\/traders-insight\/securities\/macro\/hey-mr-market-tell-me-what-you-want-what-you-really-really-want\/","title":{"rendered":"Hey Mr. Market &#8211; Tell Me What You Want, What You Really, Really Want"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>(No musical link today despite the obvious reference.&nbsp; I\u2019ve never liked the song)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019ve been wrestling with what appears to be an obvious conundrum regarding the stock market\u2019s mentality.&nbsp; Equity investors say that they are hopeful for a soft landing for the economy yet seem to relish signals of more overt weakness.&nbsp; Stock markets have rightfully shown that they crave monetary accommodation, so the prospect of rate cuts would of course be welcomed.&nbsp; But I have been wondering whether that desire for looser money reflects rational expectations or a more concerning addictive behavior.&nbsp; Have we become so obsessed with the outcome of lower rates that we lost sight about the circumstances that might bring them about?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As we write this, Fed Funds futures have completely priced out the idea of any more rate hikes.&nbsp; Considering the recent path of inflation and employment statistics, that certainly seems reasonable \u2013 even if a wide range of Federal Reserve speakers assiduously leave that possibility open.&nbsp; Remember, they remain publicly committed to both a 2% inflation target and a desire to tamp down, if not eliminate inflationary expectations beyond that target.&nbsp; Even though there is a high likelihood that inflation has become relatively tame, they can\u2019t yet be fully certain that it will last.&nbsp; &nbsp;Thus, they need to keep their options open, even if the possibilities of further hikes are remote.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Yet the change in market expectations about future hikes since the last FOMC meeting is quite astounding, as shown in the table below.&nbsp; The changes are from the day after the last FOMC meeting to the present:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1100\" height=\"436\" data-src=\"\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/Picture1-5-1100x436.png\" alt=\"Fed Funds Futures Expectations\" class=\"wp-image-199841 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/ibkrcampus.com\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/Picture1-5-1100x436.png 1100w, https:\/\/ibkrcampus.com\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/Picture1-5-700x278.png 700w, https:\/\/ibkrcampus.com\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/Picture1-5-300x119.png 300w, https:\/\/ibkrcampus.com\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/Picture1-5-768x305.png 768w, https:\/\/ibkrcampus.com\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/Picture1-5.png 1198w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1100px) 100vw, 1100px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 1100px; aspect-ratio: 1100\/436;\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Among the notable changes are:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Modest expectations (32.5%) for a 25 basis point hike by January have flipped to small expectations for a cut (15.2%)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>Cuts were not fully priced in until July.&nbsp; They are now expected by May, two meetings earlier.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>We\u2019ve gone from an 11.7% expectation for a hike in March to a 76.2% probability of a cut by that meeting.<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>The rate expectation for December has dropped by 50bp, from 4.543% to 4.043%.&nbsp; In other words, two additional cuts are now priced in for calendar year 2024.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>In light of those data, consider what might be the rationale behind such a change in outlook.&nbsp; Hint \u2013 it\u2019s not a robust economy.&nbsp; It\u2019s probably not a soft landing either.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It simply does not seem reasonable to expect the Fed to cut rates aggressively unless economic conditions warrant such a move.&nbsp; <a href=\"\/campus\/traders-insight\/securities\/macro\/fomo-is-back-baby\/\">As we noted last week<\/a>:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>My concern is that stock traders have become more enamored about the prospect of cuts without fully considering the \u201cwhy.\u201d&nbsp;&nbsp; If we do get a soft landing, why would the Fed be willing to cut as early as May?&nbsp; They would need to see sustained 2% inflation.&nbsp; Considering we\u2019re not there yet, that seems premature.&nbsp; And it\u2019s also not clear that the Fed will see the need to lower real interest rates pre-emptively if the economy is chugging along modestly.&nbsp; Remember, it\u2019s the last few years that have been abnormal in that regard.&nbsp; The current rate is a bit high on a historical basis, but not out of line with what prevailed prior to the Global Financial Crisis. (see graph at bottom)<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><em>Finally, consider also that next year is an election year.&nbsp; The Fed is historically loath to change rates ahead of an election to avoid perceptions that they are picking sides.&nbsp; As we saw in 2020, it is unlikely that the Fed would refrain from activity if circumstances dictate.&nbsp; But it would also mean that any pre-emptive or discretionary changes would likely need to occur earlier in the year.&nbsp; Futures are currently pricing in at least one rate cut between July and November.<\/em> Bottom line: if you\u2019re buying bonds because you expect aggressive rate cuts in the coming months (and not simply chasing performance), then it is understandable why your base case scenario involves economic weakness.&nbsp; But if you\u2019re buying stocks for that same reason \u2013 that cuts are coming \u2013 ask yourself whether you are implicitly anticipating a soft landing or something much worse.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"1100\" height=\"505\" data-src=\"\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/Picture1-6-1100x505.png\" alt=\"10-Year Real Interest Rate\" class=\"wp-image-199844 lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 1100px; aspect-ratio: 1100\/505;aspect-ratio:2.1782178217821784;width:1098px;height:auto\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/ibkrcampus.com\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/Picture1-6-1100x505.png 1100w, https:\/\/ibkrcampus.com\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/Picture1-6-700x321.png 700w, https:\/\/ibkrcampus.com\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/Picture1-6-300x138.png 300w, https:\/\/ibkrcampus.com\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/Picture1-6-768x352.png 768w, https:\/\/ibkrcampus.com\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/12\/Picture1-6.png 1425w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 1100px) 100vw, 1100px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Source: <a href=\"https:\/\/fred.stlouisfed.org\/series\/REAINTRATREARAT10Y\">10-Year Real Interest Rate (REAINTRATREARAT10Y) | FRED | St. Louis Fed (stlouisfed.org)<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I&#8217;ve been wrestling with what appears to be an obvious conundrum regarding the stock market\u2019s mentality.  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