{"id":192781,"date":"2023-06-30T10:45:00","date_gmt":"2023-06-30T14:45:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ibkrcampus.com\/?p=192781"},"modified":"2023-06-30T10:09:51","modified_gmt":"2023-06-30T14:09:51","slug":"what-does-real-estate-have-to-do-with-ai","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.interactivebrokers.com\/campus\/traders-insight\/securities\/macro\/what-does-real-estate-have-to-do-with-ai\/","title":{"rendered":"What Does Real Estate Have To Do With AI?"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">To shed some light on the potential of artificial intelligence (AI), and discuss the role of the supporting infrastructure enabling this boom, we were delighted to leverage the expertise of Eric Rothman, Portfolio Manager, Real Estate Securities with CenterSquare. CenterSquare is a dedicated real estate investment manager, with around $14 billion under management, and Eric has been with the company for 17 years.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Before we explore the Nvidia story and the relationship between AI, data centres, and \u2018new economy real estate\u2019, let\u2019s define what that latter phrase means.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>New economy real estate is supporting technological advancements, like AI<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What is \u2018new economy real estate\u2019? Eric noted that there is so much beyond the traditional \u20184 foodgroups\u2019 of real estate:<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">1) retail<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">2) office<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">3) residential<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">4) industrial<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When CenterSquare defines the \u2018new economy real estate\u2019 space, Eric noted that the larger components include data centres, cell phone towers, and warehouses dedicated to new economy logistics\u2014things like ecommerce fulfillment. This is far from traditional, industrial real estate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Some of the smaller segments include life sciences, cold storage, and office space that is uniquely tailored to technology tenants, typically located in specific cities with focused pools of technology talent. Such cities might be Seattle, San Francisco or New York. These types of \u2018real estate\u2019, most notably data centres, are vital to support growing technologies like AI.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>The Nvidia story\u2014$1 trillion to be spent?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There has been a huge amount of excitement and discussion around Nvidia as the stock has enjoyed overnight success on the coattails of the AI boom. \u2018$1 trillion\u2019 is a big number (and a nice headline), but it\u2019s very difficult to forecast where generative AI will take us. Some people say it is like inventing the wheel or the personal computer. This is a big claim, and only time will tell.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">If people are thinking about \u2018data centre REITs\u2019 as an investment, they have to understand that data centres just fulfil the provision of power, cooling, and connectivity. The data centre REITs do not actually own the computers. The tenants invest in the computers. One thing that is absolutely true, however, is that as an owner, you love to see the tenants putting money into the space that they are renting. Why? This makes it less likely they are going to leave. Therefore, a greater investment in AI technology and computing power may be a positive signal for the supporting real estate (like data centres).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Eric\u2019s conclusion, whether thinking about the impact of generative AI on data centre REITs or cell phone tower REITs, was that the move in share prices hasn\u2019t reflected where we could be going yet. Connectivity and data centres will be vital components for artificial intelligence, but it\u2019s not yet clear how or when investors are going to reflect that in the real estate prices. Eric noted that investors frequently forget about the buildings until later in a cycle or a trend.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Greater computing power = greater energy consumption?<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Another aspect that we discussed was energy usage. Eric estimated that newer AI-focused semiconductors draw more power, not just a little bit more power but a step change in power consumption.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In Figure 1, we show a chart from the \u2018Decadal Plan for Semiconductors\u2019, a research report by Semiconductor Research Corporation. A critical point to keep in mind is that \u2018something has to give\u2019; simply continuing to add computational capacity without thinking of efficiency or energy resources will eventually hit a wall. However, if history is any guide, we should expect that, as demand and investment in computational resources increases, there will be the potential for gains in efficiency, improved model design, and even different energy resources that may not yet exist today.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-figure-1-comparing-compute-energy-to-the-world-s-energy-production\"><strong>Figure 1: Comparing compute energy to the world\u2019s energy production<\/strong><\/h3>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-full\"><img decoding=\"async\" width=\"602\" height=\"445\" data-src=\"\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/06\/28-d-06-real-estate-1.png\" alt=\"Figure 1: Comparing compute energy to the world\u2019s energy production\" class=\"wp-image-192784 lazyload\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/ibkrcampus.com\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/06\/28-d-06-real-estate-1.png 602w, https:\/\/ibkrcampus.com\/campus\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/2\/2023\/06\/28-d-06-real-estate-1-300x222.png 300w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 602px) 100vw, 602px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 602px; aspect-ratio: 602\/445;\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Source: \u201cDecadal Plan for Semiconductors: Full Report.\u201d Semiconductor Research Corporation. Published January 2021. ZIPS is a measure of compute intensity, referring to 10^21 compute instructions per second. Compute energy measured in J\/Year, refers to Joules-per-year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Historical performance is not an indication of future performance and any investments may go down in value.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Since many investors may be less familiar with cell phone towers, Eric made sure to mention just how strong of a business model he believes this to be. Now, it\u2019s true that these REITs have not performed well in the past 18-months, but we are right in the middle of the current 5G rollout. Tenants have long leases, there is lots of demand, and there are even consumer price index (CPI) escalators that increase the rent to be collected.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\"><strong>Conclusion: a different way to think about real estate<\/strong><\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It was great to be able to spend some time speaking with Eric and to learn about what\u2019s happening both in the broader real estate market as well as in the more specific, new economy, \u2018tech-focused\u2019 market. The full discussion is accessible here:&nbsp;<a href=\"https:\/\/www.wisdomtree.eu\/en-gb\/blog\/2023-06-28\/what-does-real-estate-have-to-do-with-ai#externalLinkModal\">https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/behind-the-markets-podcast-eric-rothman\/id1194707802?i=1000615506518<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8212;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Originally Posted June 28, 2023 &#8211; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.wisdomtree.eu\/en-gb\/blog\/2023-06-28\/what-does-real-estate-have-to-do-with-ai\">What does real estate have to do with AI?<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>To shed some light on the potential of artificial intelligence (AI), and discuss the role of the supporting infrastructure enabling this boom, we were delighted to leverage the expertise of Eric Rothman, Portfolio Manager, Real Estate Securities with 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