{"id":188464,"date":"2023-04-13T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2023-04-13T16:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ibkrcampus.com\/?p=188464"},"modified":"2023-05-01T10:57:28","modified_gmt":"2023-05-01T14:57:28","slug":"this-stock-market-aint-no-field-of-dreams-you-know","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.interactivebrokers.com\/campus\/podcasts\/ibkr-podcasts\/this-stock-market-aint-no-field-of-dreams-you-know\/","title":{"rendered":"This Stock Market Ain\u2019t No Field of Dreams You Know!"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Options Solutions COO Steven Sears sits down with Andrew Wilkinson to outline his approach to a covered call strategy for equity portfolios.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Contact Information:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/optionssolutions.com\/\">https:\/\/optionssolutions.com\/<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>ssears@optionssolutions.com<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Note<\/strong><em><strong>:<\/strong>\u00a0Any performance figures mentioned in this podcast are as of the date of recording (April 10, 2023).<\/em><\/p>\n\n\n\n<iframe title=\"This Stock Market Ain\u2019t No Field of Dreams You Know!\" allowtransparency=\"true\" height=\"150\" width=\"100%\" style=\"border: none; min-width: min(100%, 430px);\" scrolling=\"no\" data-name=\"pb-iframe-player\" src=\"https:\/\/www.podbean.com\/player-v2\/?i=snw3c-13e0bc6-pb&#038;from=pb6admin&#038;share=1&#038;download=1&#038;rtl=0&#038;fonts=Arial&#038;skin=1b1b1b&#038;font-color=ffffff&#038;logo_link=episode_page&#038;btn-skin=c73a3a\"><\/iframe>\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-summary-ibkr-podcasts-ep-70\">Summary \u2013 IBKR Podcasts Ep. 70<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p><em>The following is a summary of a live audio recording and may contain errors in spelling or grammar. Although IBKR has edited for clarity no material changes have been made<\/em>.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Andrew Wilkinson <\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Welcome to today&#8217;s IBKR podcast with me, Andrew Wilkinson. This week&#8217;s guest has a rich career history in the options industry as an investor, exchange executive and journalist. He is Steve Sears, who today is President, Chief Operating Officer and co-founder of Options Solutions. So, a huge welcome to Steve Sears. This week&#8217;s discussion is going to center around those conservative options, strategies that you use to help clients enhance stock returns and reduce risk. So first of all, please outline for the audience the component pieces to a covered call strategy.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Steven Sears <\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>The covered call strategy is really one of the building blocks of the equity markets. 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So, if you seek to use options strategies in this simple conservative way to enhance returns, you actually can add a very important boost to your performance without taking on crazy risk.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Andrew Wilkinson <\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Explain to the audience then when does a covered call strategy work best? What&#8217;s the optimal type of market?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Steven Sears <\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>The optimal type of market or stock performance would be a flat or sideways market, or one that is gently rising. The strategy becomes more complicated for people to use in a market in which stock prices are surging higher, and everybody can look back and identify those moments in time within their own portfolios, with their own positions. I saw some data today, I believe that said, the average stock in the S&amp;P 500 is up 1% year-to-date. And the S&amp;P 500 index in fact, would not be up the 7% or so that it is now in early April if not for a handful of stocks. So, one of the things that investors can use to manage the covered call program should they seek to make it a fixture of their discipline, is to be very mindful of when the strategy works best and when it doesn&#8217;t. It&#8217;s this misnomer that you have to cover the entire position. In fact, you don&#8217;t, and there&#8217;s a lot of opportunity to maintain what we like to call dry powder, which is by not covering the entire position, and adjusting your strategy to market conditions.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Andrew Wilkinson <\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, that&#8217;s a nice segue into the next question, which is about the fact that recent history has made it very difficult for investors. 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